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		By: adminmyr		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.myrnakostash.com/hagia-sophia-ayasofya-holy-wisdom-whose-is-she/comment-page-1/#comment-371&quot;&gt;Volodymyr Kish&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks, Walter, for weighing in. I thought that, in fact, I had given rather short shrift to the &quot;religious aspects&quot; of Hagia Sophia&#039;s importance compared to its use over the centuries as symbolic and rhetorical space within imperial cultures etc. Your sentiments about its weaponizing of that space to bring the hapless &quot;unwashed masses&quot; under religious authority sounds like the anti-religious campaigns of various totalitarian regimes of the 20th century. Would you then be in sympathy with the Bolshevik campaigns against Orthodoxy in the USSR? I ask, because the western Left did make the case following on Marx&#039;s dictum of religion being the &quot;opiate of the masses.&quot; However, Wikipedia reminds us that &quot;the full quote from Karl Marx translates as: &#039;Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people&#039;. Often quoted only in part, the interpretation of the metaphor in its context has received much less attention.&quot; I would want to argue then, that it is capitalism that has created this void in the sighing human heart and has offered no substitute for religiouslonging.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.myrnakostash.com/hagia-sophia-ayasofya-holy-wisdom-whose-is-she/comment-page-1/#comment-371">Volodymyr Kish</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks, Walter, for weighing in. I thought that, in fact, I had given rather short shrift to the &#8220;religious aspects&#8221; of Hagia Sophia&#8217;s importance compared to its use over the centuries as symbolic and rhetorical space within imperial cultures etc. Your sentiments about its weaponizing of that space to bring the hapless &#8220;unwashed masses&#8221; under religious authority sounds like the anti-religious campaigns of various totalitarian regimes of the 20th century. Would you then be in sympathy with the Bolshevik campaigns against Orthodoxy in the USSR? I ask, because the western Left did make the case following on Marx&#8217;s dictum of religion being the &#8220;opiate of the masses.&#8221; However, Wikipedia reminds us that &#8220;the full quote from Karl Marx translates as: &#8216;Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people&#8217;. Often quoted only in part, the interpretation of the metaphor in its context has received much less attention.&#8221; I would want to argue then, that it is capitalism that has created this void in the sighing human heart and has offered no substitute for religiouslonging.</p>
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		By: myrna kostash		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2020 02:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.myrnakostash.com/hagia-sophia-ayasofya-holy-wisdom-whose-is-she/comment-page-1/#comment-372&quot;&gt;George Melnyk&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks, George, for this rumination. Hagia Sophia is indeed a panorama of unbroken history which now also includes the Islamist resurgence you mention. But in my view this is not so much a resurgence as an intensification of a continuity that began when the Conqueror inserted his triumphalist rhetoric back a thousand years into that of Byzantium. Erdogan does not have to appeal to Byzantium these days but he does insert himself into an ongoing Ottomanist rhetoric that goes back its own half-millennium.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.myrnakostash.com/hagia-sophia-ayasofya-holy-wisdom-whose-is-she/comment-page-1/#comment-372">George Melnyk</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks, George, for this rumination. Hagia Sophia is indeed a panorama of unbroken history which now also includes the Islamist resurgence you mention. But in my view this is not so much a resurgence as an intensification of a continuity that began when the Conqueror inserted his triumphalist rhetoric back a thousand years into that of Byzantium. Erdogan does not have to appeal to Byzantium these days but he does insert himself into an ongoing Ottomanist rhetoric that goes back its own half-millennium.</p>
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		By: George Melnyk		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well done Myrna combining your personal history with the history of Turkey and of Orthodox Christianity.  The re-conquest of Hagia Sophia in 2020 is more than a footnote in the history of Islam itself. It seems to be a 
part of the 21st century resurgence of fundamentalist Islam that has been fought out in countries from Afghanistan to Algeria.  I don&#039;t think there is a final status for Hagia Sophia because it is has a monumental religious stature. I will never forget my visit to it when it was a museum and seeing 11th century Norse graffiti on the railing of a balcony. It will always be a place where history comes alive.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done Myrna combining your personal history with the history of Turkey and of Orthodox Christianity.  The re-conquest of Hagia Sophia in 2020 is more than a footnote in the history of Islam itself. It seems to be a<br />
part of the 21st century resurgence of fundamentalist Islam that has been fought out in countries from Afghanistan to Algeria.  I don&#8217;t think there is a final status for Hagia Sophia because it is has a monumental religious stature. I will never forget my visit to it when it was a museum and seeing 11th century Norse graffiti on the railing of a balcony. It will always be a place where history comes alive.</p>
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		By: Volodymyr Kish		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wonderfully written! It is interesting that it only tangentially links the religious aspects of Hagia Sophia&#039;s importance, to the more pragmatic political dimension behind its creation and maintenance over the centuries. Emperors, kings, warlords, tyrants and conquerors of all stripes learned over the course of history that religion and its symbolic trappings were one of the most potent weapons to keep the &quot;unwashed masses&quot; in line and obedient to their &quot;god given&quot; authority!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderfully written! It is interesting that it only tangentially links the religious aspects of Hagia Sophia&#8217;s importance, to the more pragmatic political dimension behind its creation and maintenance over the centuries. Emperors, kings, warlords, tyrants and conquerors of all stripes learned over the course of history that religion and its symbolic trappings were one of the most potent weapons to keep the &#8220;unwashed masses&#8221; in line and obedient to their &#8220;god given&#8221; authority!</p>
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